July 26, 23:52
It's been just over 48 hours since the first release of Rails was unveiled and more than 200 300 500 people have already downloaded the framework. While numbers are shallow, I'm really thrilled to see this take off so fast. Not even Instiki , which has a much broader appeal, took off that fast (although it has now been downloaded 2,418 times, which places 7th on the all time download list at RubyForge ).
But as I said, numbers are shallow. What's really making my day are all the overwhelmingly positive comments that are flowing in. It's quite a kick to hear people say they want to learn Ruby just to use Rails. Thank you all so much. I'll be sure to make the transition worth while.
If you want chat about whether Rails perhaps also could be something for you to leave PHP/Java/C#/Per/Python behind for, there's already a great community blooming at #rubyonrails on FreeNET. Come join us .
Challenge by Uffe on July 27, 10:20
As a C# developer absolutely in love with the language, I won't do a switch for some time. However, even without knowing one bit of Ruby, just looking at the examples, the setup video and the tutorials has me convinced that Rails is truly a masterpiece.
In fact I'm thinking of doing a new web app framework in .NET inspired by Rails. Although my homegrown web app + database persistence framework kicks ass compared to the traditional ways of building .NET based web apps, it's nothing like Rails. And now I really want it to be.
Even without using the framework I'm enthusiastic about it, so I can imagine how the developers actually using it must feel. Well done.
Challenge by Amir on July 27, 15:02
I have also looked at the same things as you Uffe. And I also did install it.
It truly the easiest web framework there is. Kudos to you David! And in the future, I am pretty sure that it's also going to be very powerful.
On the other part I have also dived into Ruby.
Well, the language is smart - you have lot's of possibilities. But I just feel that those possibilities aren't documented enough - it's very hard to find help. The other thing that really bothers me is the use of do and end. In my opinion that's really a stupid decision by the Ruby developers. It's like more stupid than pasting "self" to methods in Python.
Well, see this as an excuse for not switching over. Of course, I will reconsider moving when Rails gets to v1.0. In the end, it really does not matter what you code in, as long as your job gets easier. Rails looks like REALLY easy and powerful.
Kind regards,
Amir
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I'm sorry to hear you feel such revolt with the def/end. I've grown to quite like it, but that's just me. Besides, if you're using a decent editor, you're not even going to do that much end-typing. Have a look at: http://media.nexangle.com/textmate/def_end.mov
And thanks for all the praise, Amir and Uffe.
Challenge by gabriele on July 27, 18:52
Amir: well, just use {} instead of do..end :)
About possibility of the language.. well, you will find help on #ruby-lang @ irc.freenode.net or 0on the ruby-talk mailing list (cross mirrored to comp.lang.ruby).
Anyway luckily the ruby documentation problem is slowly going away (I started rubying two years ago and it was worst ;-)
Challenge by Amir on July 28, 12:16
Gabriele: Thanks for that little tip.
So damn hard not to switch. Well, I am going to do my own blog on Rails - to check it out in more detail.
David:
I am using VIM :-). And your video does not work. Anyway, VIM is pretty damn configureable... So it should not be impossible to tune it up for Ruby (I have also seen that there is a special Ruby VIM package.. [http://vim-ruby.rubyforge.org/] :-D LOOKING GOOD!)
Btw. your video of TextMate does not work... But I have seen TextMate in action (from the installation video...)
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