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July 29, 16:57

Smart money is on a shift away from J2EE

Keith Pitty is a J2EE developer with 20 years of experience in Software Development. Here's what he had to say about the upswing of dynamic languages like Ruby and Python after reading about Rails:

I know this is an inflammatory statement but it would seem like the smart money is on a shift away from J2EE to Ruby or Python-based web frameworks.

Of course, Rails is not alone in bringing this line of questioning before the holy temple of Enterprise Development, but its comforting to see that there is at least a shred of light from those on the inside. Perhaps web-development needs not be torture? Perhaps programming can actually be fun?

If Keith was feeling doubts, though, there are plenty of priests to calm him down with the usual chants about "...they are quick hacks..", "...people say that the J2EE solutions are more scalable", "...small-scale web applications...".


Challenge by jos on July 30, 18:05

It's pretty stupid to compare a web framework to J2EE. J2EE is much more than just a web based framework (security, transaction, persistence, distributed component anyone ? )

Rails can be compared to Struts or JSF, not to J2EE.
So far there is no equivalent of the J2EE stack anywhere (maybe when dot.net indigo will be out with all the new fancy async stuffs), only partial competitors.

Challenge by David Heinemeier Hansson on July 30, 18:09

Well, most people use J2EE as a catch-all for "enterprise java stuff". Regardless of whether it's just servlets with Struts or WebWork or Tapestry or whatever on top.

Also, Rails would compare to a Java stack. Like JSP + Struts + Hibernate for example. It's not just a web-control framework, but also a template view and ORM.

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